Denied Bald Eagle - Player Report on McLuvin

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Bald Eagle

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Username: Bald Eagle

❂ In-Game Name Bald Eagle

Your STEAMID/Link to your STEAM Profile Steam ID: 76561198037612891

Your Discord Bald Eagle#5596

What is the in-game name of the player that you are reporting? McLuvin

Paste a link to the STEAM profile of the player that you are reporting. https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198277369955/

Which rule/rules was this player breaking? RDM

Put any evidence of this player breaking the rules here. Following an admin sit with Shade:

I joined the server, then walked into a gun shop *NOT* owned by McLuvin. After a few moments of everyone standing around, McLuvin asked a question about my "camera" then shot myself and another player (who was banned later, unrelated) Stri. I have no affiliation with that other player.

I created a ticket and sat down with Shade who told me my logs were glitched as a result of having just joined. I did not record that interaction unfortunately. Despite that, the logs clearly showed McLuvin RDM myself and the other player. Shortly after I called him out for RDM, he adverted a raid, then immediately adverted over.

During the sit, McLuvin claimed he was "raiding" and that he could kill me. Despite that, he had never adverted raid and was standing in the gun shop for a long period of time beforehand as people entered and exited as confirmed by Alex^ who owned the shop (he told me he actually planned to make a ticket about it, but was lazy). He made no attempt to raid, and had not adverted. He subsequently claimed he was "solo" raiding, which would have been against the rules given his status in Semen's party (Have an image, how can I attach?). He then said Semen had adverted a raid, but he adverted "over" shortly before this interaction as shown in the logs (Have an image, how can I attach?).

It was decided McLuvin was somehow in the right and I was encouraged by Shade to create a player report as he was not going to change his decision. It appears to me the evidence is overwhelming to prove that someone as a Mod (who should know better) just decided to pop a couple people in the head for no reason.

Happy to jump in a call to discuss further should that be easier.

Optional: Any other comments?
 

Bald Eagle

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Attaching relevant images of logs, party affiliation and chats from Alex^.
 

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Doc

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I was on a the time and Shade asked me to have a look, we brought McLuvin and he explained that he had adverted raid 10 minutes prior and I verified this with logs. The rule states as follows:
ERR3. Raids last 10 minutes, and begin when a raiding tool is used (keypad, lockpick, EMP) or a raid advert is called.
and the enforcement goes on to specify:
- As a player: When you are raiding a base, you can only stay in the base for 10 minutes if you defeat the defender.
This rule does not state what the raider has to be doing within that 10 minutes, nor what constitutes the "act of raiding" for those 10 minutes. A raider does not need to make specific actions to be actively raiding, merely staying in the base covers this per the rule.
It would be too confusing and slightly unfair to create a rule that states a specific action the raider has to be doing or requirements they have to meet that allow them to stay in the base for up to 10 minutes.
For Staff members who break rules, please fill out a Staff Report in future.
For further questions/inquiries about your appeal, please reach out to Wilkers (!Wilkers!#4231) or myself (Doc!#9842), Killuminati (Killuminati#0797) or Dylinux (Dylinux#5106)​
 

Bald Eagle

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Hi Doc,

Thanks for the swift reply. Unfortunately, I cannot agree with your assessment.

Firstly, can you please provide proof of that log? McLuvin's story is consistently changing and this was not brought up in the initial sit. They did make a claim that he could raid for 10 minutes, but provided no proof.

As well, this point is undermined by Semen's advert of "over" briefly before my interaction. As stated prior, they were in a raid as a party which had completed prior to his decision to fire on Stri & myself. This is clearly shown in the log I provided.

Another point is obviously shown that McLuvin attempted to advert his raid, then advert over briefly after I called him out for RDM. Was he then raiding the same base within minutes of raiding it prior?

EDIT TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING:

ERR4. In situations where a solo raid begins using a raid tool (not killing a player) a solo raider does not need to advert raid. Solo raiders cannot raid in a party. (McLuvin at one point claimed he was solo raiding before changing his story)

ERR5. Raiders that want to raid together must be in an !party, and must advert Party Raid/Assist. - As shown, McLuvin WAS in a party with Semen. I expect the log you mentioned will show Semen/McLuvin adverting a party raid & assist, which would have ended BEFORE he decided to RDM as shown in my attached log. If not, this constitutes a failure to advert properly.
 
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