Don't want to derail the topic too much, new player's usually don't want to dedicate time into learning meta's and making money as you see a bunch of them asking for money handouts so the 150-270k is out of reach and even if they did get a cheaper gun/reg EMP's the odds of "successful" raid getting done is near 0 as are the chances of getting into a gang with 150hp right out of the gate.
This being said, I know that the invisibility smoothies are not going anywhere. I more or less wanted to see where others stood on them. It seems to me that its easier to get 5-6 people have one throw EMP's have the max HP/Armor and bum rush the door than it is to actually build a base. Now don't get me twisted, I am not a "meta" builder but I am certainly not the worst. With the base rules the server has in place compared to the raiders restrictions one is definitely easier and a lot less time consuming to do.
This being said, I know that the invisibility smoothies are not going anywhere. I more or less wanted to see where others stood on them. It seems to me that its easier to get 5-6 people have one throw EMP's have the max HP/Armor and bum rush the door than it is to actually build a base. Now don't get me twisted, I am not a "meta" builder but I am certainly not the worst. With the base rules the server has in place compared to the raiders restrictions one is definitely easier and a lot less time consuming to do.